Forum Classics #5: Puzzles Puzzling Me
Last in the series. Thanks to everyone who contributed to the forums and to those who post in the comments now. This wouldn’t be a Church without you. It would be a fat bearded man in a cellar, talking to himself.
Christiaan
Fun.. but don’t go too farOke guys.
I’m like a huge fan of coldplay and stuff.And i see the fun side of your website.
But don’t take it too far.
Chill out and get a life.Go out and love.
Have a nice day!
Garlic Host
Re: Fun.. but don’t go too farYou don’t get it. It’s deadly serious. In a way…
Decipher the codes!
“and I’m not gonna stand and wait
not gonna leave it until it’s much too late
oh on a platform i’m gonna stand and sing
that I’m nothing on my own
and I love you please come homemy song is love, is love unknown
and I’ve got to get that message home”- A Message by Chris Martin
Heirophant
Re: Fun.. but don’t go too farYeah, Garlic - just think of all the lyrics where Chris talks about puzzles and codes to be solved -
“the sign that I couldn’t read
or the light that I couldn’t see
some things you have to believe
but others are puzzles, puzzling me” (Speed of Sound)“Do you feel like a puzzle, you can’t find your missing piece?” (Talk)
“Under the surface trying to break through
Deciphering the codes in you
I need a compass, draw me a map” (Square One)…and the puzzle code on the cover of x&y.
So what is the answer? THE CHURCH OF CHRIS MARTIN!
Garlic Host
Re: Fun.. but don’t go too farAnd it’s not like the puzzles are that hard.
Even the bible has its Song of Songs that clearly combine eartly and divine love, or at least this is how it’s interpreted by most.
Now check again CM’s lyrics. Many claim he’s singing simple lovesongs to his girlfriend, wife or kids but it really doesn’t make sense that way:
“oh on a platform i’m gonna stand and sing”
Chris says he’s on stage because of…
“that I’m nothing on my own”
to tell he cannot live without his wife?? C’mon!
“and I love you please come home”
that he misses her?? But then check this:
“my song is love, is love unknown”
love ‘unknown’?? A secret lover? This makes no sense if he’s singing to his wife or anyone people know. It’s a ‘hidden’ love, an ‘occult’ one.
“and I’ve got to get that message home”
This last bit has so many possible meanings that I cannot start listing them here.
Bono has many lyrics like this, mixing love poetry with biblical passages and mystical or religious state of minds.(’she moves in mysterious ways’, ‘who’se gonna ride your wild horses’). And surprise surprise U2 is Coldplays ‘great example’.
Garlic Host
Re: Fun.. but don’t go too farForgot to mention.
First the phrase: “please come home”
then: “get that message home”.
So who is at home now and who is away? Again this is classic gnostic thinking, the wandering ‘lost sheep’, which is in itself ‘message’ (DNA) or also called Sophia in certain traditions.
Heirophant
Re: Fun.. but don’t go too farAnother great post, Garlic
Whenever CM sings about home (a.k.a. Clocks) he means his spiitual home, the Kingdom Of Heaven. He struggles to return to that state of being himself (”How long do I have to climb/Upon the side of this mountain of mine?”) and to lead us all there with him. Therefore, he is more of a Bohdisatva than a Jesus figure, who lets face it, just buggered off after the ressurection.
Love Unknown - he is referring to the love between Jesus and the Magdalene, which is unknown in the canonical Gospels, but is writ large in the Gnostic Gospels, such as the Gospel of Judas, or the Gospel of Mary, mentioned in Da Vincis Code.
~H
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“I wanna live in a wooden house”
Petra & SALTS
Re: Fun.. but don’t go too farGarlic and Heiro, yep, bullseye.
“Whenever CM sings about home (a.k.a. Clocks) he means his spiitual home, the Kingdom Of Heaven.”
to this I say:
“Oh take me back to the STAR.”
(if you listen carefully to The Scientist there is no “T” sound at the end when he supposively says “take me back to the start”, more accurately he is saying “take me back to the STAR” …look at the stars, look how they shine for you, etc. Star being the source, the morning star, infinite love/consciousness, etc, etc, etc…This I think is why coldplay have never published any official lyrics, then it would be too obvious.
Garlic Host
Re: Fun.. but don’t go too farGarlic wrote about Coldplay’s song Message:
“my song is love, is love unknown
Love to the loveless shown
And it goes on
You don’t have to be alonelove ‘unknown’?? A secret lover? This makes no sense if he’s singing to his wife or anyone people know. It’s a ‘hidden’ love, an ‘occult’ one.”
Some evidence of CM’s inspiration one can find in the source of this bit of lyric, which I didn’t realize before. It’s taken from Samuel Crossman’s hymn from 1664:”My song is love unknown, My Savior’s love to me, Love to the loveless shown”.
So Chris leaves out the “My Savior’s love to me” and quotes this Christian hymn. Now Coldplay is not known to be a Christian band, so what drives CM to put all these things in the lyrics? A closet Christian? Or someone who went deeper to the core of Christianity, like the Gnostics, someone who entered the light himself and was “send back” to us to tell about it mixing new and old words?
July 06 2009 09:00 am | Church History
True Widow Speaks Out in Defense of C O C girls ! on 09 Jul 2009 at 6:48 pm #
Hear Ye Church of Chris Martin!
I was there at the Glastonbury Yellow Tent Event-well, at least until the Swine Flu hit, and then I kept an even lower profile. But I saw that the C:O:C: girls-while acting flirtatious with the Chain Gang out of the prison, were-for the most-part on good behavior.
I did not see any “orgy’s” or the Holy Pilgrims 3 flaunting their “erections.” In fact, nothing seemed much out of the ordinary and nothing shocking occurred in front of me and I have seen plenty of backstage action. My opinion is that this video director felt ignored by the girls because they were under direct order by Holy Cobain to behave themselves.
It was only true Church love and righteous pity
they felt for the poor, deprived Chain-gangers that caused them to grant these forsaken souls a little grab-and pull. This was done in a spirit of altruism and was not filmed because it took place in the bushes. These C:O:C: girls are true artistes and channel in dance what Coldplay sings about in music. They are heavenly interpreters of the spirit that moves souls when in the embrace of creativity and ecstatic surrender to the movement of love vessel-ness.
Was this video director a coldplaying.com flunkie who found his way over to our tent and is now attempting to way-lay The Church’s attempts to record for posterity the great Yellow Tent Event?
Is he trying to further erode the precarious hold on sanity that Arch Pope Drobbingdon is suffering from?
It is enough that Daddy Drob is quivering in the bunker and not in the best of health. Must this video heathen infidel put additional pressure on the Arch Pope when he is consumed with End-of-the-World scenarios and what photos to okay for the C:O:C: girls calender? That is enough to break a mortal man, let alone a great man of Spirit who brought to the world this immortal Church of Chris Martin!
I know that the Holy Cobain would call for understanding and contemplation before anyone starts calling for the heads of the Pilgrims 3 or the enhanced mammaries of the C:O:C: girls. Let’s keep things in perspective and hope that somehow a video can be gotten that will satisfy the desires of the C:O:C: fans and glorify the Church activities at Glastonbury. Thank you all for your endeavors at Saint-a-fying the Great One Out of Seattle. No NOT Bill Gates! All Hail Artistic Freedom & the Ability to CREATE! Amen.
Crystal Lite (C O C channeler) on 10 Jul 2009 at 7:43 pm #
We C O C girls are simple souls who just love to dance and entrance. We know that many other churchfolk find us to be a distraction, scandalous, or just plain slutty.
So I made a special poem for Chris Martin & Coldplay to show how their music and Church have somewhat accepted us for who we are and don’t cast judgments or aspersions on us. Thank you Church of Chris Martin & Chris Martin-himself for just being you. In your defense, I present:
“YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE GAY TO LIKE COLDPLAY!”
by
CRYSTAL LITE
I know in the “40 Yr. Old Virgin” movie, they made fun of you, but I don’t think you gotta be gay to like Coldplay. That just ain’t true.
If a guy is smart in the head-
and wants to get a lot of hot chicks in his bed;
then he will do what I say to do-
Say to chicks: you like Coldplay (and Incubus) too!
Girls will think you’re sensitive and kind-
and that you ARE NOT GAY & liking men’s behinds.
The music of Coldplay brings pleasure to the ears,
you shouldn’t have to worry enjoying it will make you queer.
Chris Martin has a boyish appeal,
I would like to show him I not gay either, for real!
But Gwyneth got him, and 2 kids in tow-
If she would give me the okay…watch me go-go-go!!
I danced at Glastonbury & made friends with the prisoners in the bushes,
but I told those jailbirds-No doing it in the tushes.
Those guys were so grateful for any little cuddle or kisses-they promise to like Coldplay & kick anyone’s ass that says “They are sisses!”
The Church, Arch Pope, Holy Erect 3, and the True Widow too…have all been nice to us C O C-ers, and I bet they would be to you!
So come on out and see us C O C girls dancing and doing our Holy thing…AND listen to the most beautiful music in the world: that would be Chris Martin when he sings!
Love and kisses and…from Crystal Lite xxxxx
Righteous Robin...No Shame Allowed! on 11 Jul 2009 at 12:59 am #
“God shows His immeasurable grace, mercy, and love in that Rahab the harlot of pagan Jericho was grafted in to the lineage of His Son, and is listed in the “Hall of Faith” in Hebrews 11 as one of the highest examples of faith and belief and obedience. (God didn’t condemn her for lying to save the spies, either).
Rahab was the mother of Boaz, the kinsman redeemer (a model of Christ in the OT), who redeemed and married Ruth of Moab, another pagan who believed God…. Read More
Boaz fathered Obed, who fathered Jesse, who was the father of King David. Our Lord Jesus is the Son of David, and He will rule and reign on the throne of His father David.”
Did you know that Jesus’ grandmother (32 generations back) was a prostitute? It is in the Bible.
Rahab trusted God and God is proud of her.
This is for the Ladies who dance at the Church.
Do NOT be ashamed of yourselves. God uses many different kinds of people for his purposes..many of them NOT PERFECT! You Church of Chris girls seem to have good hearts and are surely talented! Who’s to say God is not working through you in some special way. Keep up your dancing and outreach work and know that you are NOT shameful in God’s eye. He has blessed The Church of Chris Martin with some eye-catching pulchritude that will win hearts, minds, and probably loins for Church glory. Praise God. Amen.
Dance Director C O C girls on 16 Jul 2009 at 6:05 pm #
Blessing & a Summery Hello to all Artists & Fans:
C O C UPDATE:
Once we were able to spring one of our better dancers out of the pokey thanks to Barrister Boyd, we made haste to get together and start rehearsing our “Naked Pole Dance Salute to Summer Extravaganza & Diversity Statement.” Keep in mind Church “members,” the C O C girls will only take it all off-IF there is an important political or ideological statement to dance to.
If as Rod Stewart states : “Every Picture Tells a Story,” so can words and dance. And the C O C girls-they of the bodacious bodies and “tabula rosa” minds are the perfect eloquent channeler of my choreography!
My heritage that speaks of world diversity allows me-motivates me-compels me-demands that I take these women and mold them into dance expression- a daring audiovisual statement..without words. I will use these slatternly Church ladies as my dance canvas-I will communicate to humanity the depth of culture in a contemporary way-and in this essential movement that transcends conversation or text becoming one with a gut, elemental, and yes-sexual movement in time. That is the C O C experience in a dance nutshell.
My voice is alternative-I seek Diversity in life, love, culture, art, and intellectual pursuits. I try to bring this belief in diversity to everything I do and create. The C O C artistes must be open to expressing the diverse creative option of life within the community of the world. In fact this new dance we are practicing is a “docu-dance” and will be attempted to be filmed-yet again-by our Glastonbury video director who has promised not to hit on any C O C artistes while they procreate and create art.
How do you live “diversity?” Well-that is the question I pose to the girls. Most of them will simply say they get it on with black guys, but there is much more to life and art than large penises.
We must ask: “What is the dance performance about?”
Anyone can simply..”move,” but there must be a philosophy about it! The girls MUST learn to see “story through body movement.” C O C girls must possess a few good brain cells to behold this big concept: “Seeing and -interpreting things differently, and with a sense of adventure and exploration is a major point and part of the artistic experience. WE MUST EXPRESS A VERY CORE ESSENCE INTO A DEEP EMOTION-sometimes unclothed.
Large bosoms are a hallmark of the chest representing the source of all true emotion-especially that which inculcates the blessed, sacred heart. This is what I am most passionate about-the dancing of a variety of women with large breasts representing the “mother earth” in all her potential to nurse life on this planet back to health and well-being. The “myth” of naked dancing being “nasty” is a perversion of nature-thus: the concept of this myth is rich with a history not always correct but it is contemporary and the C O C girls are here as “myth-busters (with big busts!)
Ahh!! The Possibilities! They are everywhere to create and make personal political, ecological, mythological, pedantic statements of a cognitive nature and time. Every culture that the girls can “interface with” is a “new Connection in art.” From these “connections,” come stories, myths, and an intricate but creative co-mingling of dance, naked expression, music, video and a nasty narrative that only the Blessed (Church of Chris) girls can engender. God Bless the Great Church and we are soon to be holding C O C auditions for any amply-endowed and UNINHIBITED ladies who wish to honor the eminence of the Master Martin and Holy Saints and Pilgrim sojourners/prophets. Viva La Viva! Stay tuned for more details on how to C O C !
Sweet Tart (Head C O C ) on 19 Jul 2009 at 3:44 am #
Hello One & All:
So sorry for the wee bit of trouble I got into at the Yellow Tent Event @ Glastonbury! I didn’t know it was a Constable’s car that was coming round the bend when I duffed my duds and ran into the street. I was trying to dance an impassioned statement about “freedom” when I made that mad dash, and so off to the ladies lock-up I go! Thank goodness-Barrister Boyd was not far behind me and charmed the lady judge with his good looks and eloquence-thereby setting me free.
But I have news for any Church of Chris Martin brethren and sistren that might find themselves in the pokey like me. First off I was thrown into a big jail cell with lots of scary lady dopers, hookers, child-beaters and such. I was beside myself with fright, but them gals saw my little C O C tank top I was squeezed into & immediately recognized the Great Church. They all asked about being a C O C and such-treating me like I’m some kind of movie star!
Even the jailhouse dyke warden came over and shook my hand and took me picture! Who knew we were so famous? A Lady cop-killer gave me some gum and another gal that robbed Safeways fronted me some ciggies.
Why I say this is that no one need fear getting thrown in the big house no more. Just tell them you’re a COC-er and be treated like a queen. I promised all them lady jailbirds I’d be back to visit with some autographed photos and Erection thongs and t-shirts. I think I kinda liked getting locked up and made lots of friends.
Thank you Church of Chris Martin for taking me off the streets, & giving me a fun group of good time gals to dance and strip with. The jail gals want to start a Church of Chris Martin chapter in the prison and will pose for a calender too. I think we got a good thing going here, Father Drobbingdon- “join the Church
of Chris Martin and get “protection” when you go to jail!” coldplaying.com can’t touch that one!
Hallelujah-stripteasers-aka “art dancers” and Holy Erect 3-somes in the bushes with jailbirds! Amen.
luv, xxx sweet tart xxx